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The Seeds of the National Crazy Registry Bear Fruit [update]

10 Wednesday Apr 2013

Posted by subconch in America, Liberty, Politics

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2nd amendment, 4th amendment, 5th amendment, gun control, gun rights, mental health, molon labe, property rights, tyranny

***Update, 04.11.2013:
Turns out the NY State Police targeted the wrong guy for confiscation. All just an innocent mistake, you see, that a man was unjustly flagged as mentally unfit and treated like a criminal and ordered to give up his guns; that this man was accidently picked from a list (just a guess)  that he shouldn’t be on because the list shouldn’t exist. No harm, no foul, huh? This might well mean that somebody else is the “right” guy, I mean, victim. No word if he got his letter yet.
***

Via protein wisdom:

If you take anti-anxiety drugs your pistol permit can be revoked. Just as I predicted would happen.

[…]

And just so we’re clear on the implications here: if a state can revoke your pistol permit because you are on anxiety medication — which, incidentally, is a treatment, which would seem to suggest that the anxiety has been controlled — it can revoke your permit for any number of “medical” or “mental health” issues, all of which they’ll be privy to as a function of ObamaCare.

The linked story is about a legal gun owner in NY who received a notice from the state ordering him to surrender his weapons to the local police (who knew about him, and were readied to pay him a visit had he not shown up at the station), and that his gun permit was being suspended. Why? He had a short-term health issue requiring meds, a private issue that his doctor didn’t disclose to any authority. No criminal record. No violent acts. No problem with the law. Just a medical record… CRIMINAL!

Are you okay with the state rifling through your private medical records, without a warrant, in search of a reason to deprive you of your property, or for that matter, any reason whatever? Do you know what country you live in? Have you ever heard of the Constitution?

Amendment IV:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V:

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Back in January, I too had a bad feeling about all that “mental health” talk, purporting in tandem with or in lieu of stricter gun control, to be a preferred primary objective of governmental introspection for many post-Newtown reactionary hysterics.

Guns… mental health… Equally outside the scope of the federal govt. They’ve NO business in our holsters, OR in our heads. #tcot #tlot

— subconch (@subconch) January 10, 2013

Again, careful this "mental health" talk. Who gets to DEFINE "sane enough" to own a firearm, or have rights ftm? HHS? #backdoor #guncontrol

— subconch (@subconch) January 15, 2013

… and from Mental Health, and the Consequence of the National Crazy Registry:

Then, amongst the barrage of gun-hysteria-linked-”mental health”-hysteria, Obama puts out his 23 Executive Actions to Address Gun Violence, 01.16.13 (which is translated here):

[…]

All of this is clearly aimed at growing the list (see NICS below) of those prohibited from buying firearms (the gun-forbidden list), by way of growing the “these people are crazy” list. A neat little trick.

Break down the walls of privacy, encourage doctors to snoop and report, assure them they’ll get paid for the process, start the “dialogue”(code for propaganda), and then ultimately define crazy down. You know, lower the threshold for the honor of placement on the list.

But it’s deeper still. The bad guys don’t submit to background checks. They get their guns. Everybody knows this. So why else compile a national registry of “crazy” people? So that they can be controlled, limited, manipulated, blackmailed, and otherwise deprived of liberty, of course. If you don’t think such a database has the potential to be abused as a tool of oppression, both by government and citizen, then you are a naive child.

Consider as well, the consequence to those who are truly in need of mental health services who, upon learning of this growing national mental defective registry, might not seek help at all, so as to stay off the list. Think of that for a moment…

This.Is.Tyranny

…but hey, the architects have for themselves the appropriate appellation (D), so it must be okay.

~tdv

Related:

  • A Translation of the List of President Obama’s 23 Executive Actions to Address Gun Violence
  • Who’s REALLY “Ginning Up Fear on the Part of Gun Owners”? Hint: It’s not other gun owners.
  • Outed Gun Owners are Victims of Lawless Mobs.
  • Crazy is Always Armed
  • Reactional Saviors

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Mental Health, and the Consequence of the National Crazy Registry

29 Tuesday Jan 2013

Posted by subconch in Liberty, Politics

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abuse of power, background checks, consequence, defining crazy down, gun control, mental health, nics, privacy, tyranny

Anybody starting to see where this is headed?

Just caught this bit from Fox News Radio:
  “A new way of determining whether someone is suffering from mental illness- check out their Facebook profile.“

As I alluded to on Jan. 10: “Guns… mental health… Equally outside the scope of the federal govt. They’ve NO business in our holsters, OR in our heads.”
…and on Jan. 14: “Again, careful this “mental health” talk. Who gets to DEFINE “sane enough” to own a firearm, or have rights for that matter? HHS? #backdoor #guncontrol”

Then, amongst the barrage of gun-hysteria-linked-“mental health”-hysteria, Obama puts out his 23 Executive Actions to Address Gun Violence, 01.16.13 (which is translated here):

#2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
#16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
#17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
#20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
#21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
#22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
#23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius(HHS) and Duncan(Education) on mental health.

All of this is clearly aimed at growing the list (see NICS below) of those prohibited from buying firearms (the gun-forbidden list), by way of growing the “these people are crazy” list. A neat little trick.

Break down the walls of privacy, encourage doctors to snoop and report, assure them they’ll get paid for the process, start the “dialogue” (code for propaganda), and then ultimately define crazy down. You know, lower the threshold for the honor of placement on the list.

But it’s deeper still. The bad guys don’t submit to background checks. They get their guns. Everybody knows this. So why else compile a national registry of “crazy” people? So that they can be controlled, limited, manipulated, blackmailed, and otherwise deprived of liberty, of course. If you don’t think such a database has the potential to be abused as a tool of oppression, both by government and citizen, then you are a naive child.

Consider as well, the consequence to those who are truly in need of mental health services who, upon learning of this growing national mental defective registry, might not seek help at all, so as to stay off the list. Think of that for a moment…

~tdv

NICS, the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (the gun-forbidden list) is maintained by the FBI, and contributed to by, among others, mental health institutions, psychiatrists, and family members, prohibiting those “adjudicated as mental defectives“, et al. from buying guns (at least through a federally licensed dealer).

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